Desert Island Discs – The Clash part 2

Good afternoon on a bright and breezy Saturday afternoon, hope this finds you in fine fettle. Sorry for the recent lack of updates but I was a bit under the weather for a few days and then that was exacerbated by the football this morning (well done Manchester United – through gritted teeth). Nevertheless I’m back now and mean to finish what I started which was a quick look at BBC/Desert Island Discs and those who have displayed the grace and intelligence to choose The Clash as one of the records they would take to a desert island. If you’ve no idea just what I’m prattling on about please go back and read part one.

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Harry Enfield likes The Clash....good man

As I mentioned previously in the hundreds of broadcasts compiled by the BBC only eleven people have managed to include The Clash on their final list of eight songs. The first six people are on the previous post, each of them essentially likeable but I can’t really same the same for the final five below. For each person listed, you can can click the red link to see all the songs that they chose and hear the archive recording on the BBC website.

Shirley Conran (Author/Designer) – Another name that I feel mildly embarrassed not to know immediately but then again I don’t have time to read as many books as I should. Common sense kicked in when I realised she is the ex-wife of Terrence Conran and thus the mother to Jasper and Sebastian, both of whom were friends with Joe Strummer. It also explains her being so on the pulse in the summer of ’77 to have selected Career Opportunities.

Ben Elton (Comedian/Author) – If you came of age in 1980′s Britain you certainly were aware of and have an opinion on Ben Elton. Edgy comedy before it was popular in Britain and politically active I’ve always liked him. He made his mark young too, writing for The ¬†Young Ones in his early twenties and then being the co-writer for Blackadder. Who doesn’t like Blackadder? His novels have been a bit more hit and miss but he remains a prolific writer and social observer. He chose London Calling when he provided his interview in 1996.

Harry Enfield (Comedian/Writer) – Harry Enfield was another who was writing alternative comedy in the UK before it became anywhere near as fashionable as its become now. Not to overstate it but if Monty Python were Iggy and The Stooges then Enfield and Elton would be somewhere near the equivalent of very good post punk, they were taking risks. Enfield started writing with Paul Whitehouse for television in 1988 and by 1990 he had his own show. Comedians weren’t doing giant arena tours then and working on television was the apex for many. Enfield reminds me fully of the last years of Thatcher and the beginning of John Major. Hard to believe it’s over 20 years since he was so popular. He chose Garageland when he was on in 1997.

Sanjeev Bhaskar (Writer/Director) – What is the connection between comedy writers and The Clash? Interesting to ponder but I have no real answers. Bhaskar is best known as the writer of Goodness Gracious Me and the more recent The Kumars at no. 42. He also chose London Calling in 2008.

Boris Johnson (Mayor of London/Utter Joke) – I saved the worst for last, it always appalls me when people you can’t stand like The Clash. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often, incidentally Boris picked Pressure Drop.

Do bookmark the BBC page and have a look, some of the guests are far more interesting than many of the musical choices it has to be said. I mentioned The Clash made the list for 11 people which sounded poor until I explore a bit more; here are some of the results:

33 – David Bowie

8 – The Smiths

7 – The Jam

5 – Joy Division

4 – The Sex Pistols, The Stanglers, Talking Heads, Oasis

1 – The Damned (horribly low…Jo Brand)

So as you can see eleven for The Clash isn’t poor at all. You can type in whomever you want and see who/if anyone picked that band. In general people I like pick reasonable music, with some notable exception. Right then, I’m still waiting to hear your desert island discs. I’ll work on mine.

 

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18 Responses to “Desert Island Discs – The Clash part 2”

  1. b says:

    If you insist…

    White Man In Ammersmiff Palais

    Anarchy In The Uk

    Down In The Tube Station At Midnight

    Sound Of The Suburbs

    Johnny Was

    Down In The Sewer (sorry Tim)

    Sing If You're Glad to be Gay

    Bohemian Rhapsody

    Book -- 1984

    luxury item -- a never ending supply of beer.

  2. Boris says:

    What's the big problem with you disliking Boris for liking The Clash? Are you a superior listener or is it some sort of inverted prejudice because he expresses his democratic right and chooses not to agree with your politics?

    • Tim at The Clash Blo says:

      Hardly a 'big problem' -- I just find the man to be ludicrous and (based on what I hear) out of touch with the average Londoner, perhaps you like him, good for you. Define 'superior listener' -- is there even such a thing? I assume you think so if you use such a phrase.

      Politically; I don't live in London so I'm not in a position to judge him on a regular basis, somewhat similar to you not being in a position to judge my politics.

    • Tim at The Clash Blo says:

      I should be more clear, I don't dislike him for liking The Clash. I just dislike him.

  3. boris says:

    So you're not in a position to judge, but you just dislike him? Isn't that the definition of prejudice?

    • Tim at The Clash Blo says:

      I'm not in a position to judge his political impact upon living in London, as I stated. As for his overall nature, inconsistencies and mock bumbling persona he's not someone I find pleasant.

      No…the definition of prejudice typically is disliking due to colour, gender, religion, nationality etc. None of which enter the equation. If you meet someone and decide you don't like their personality it doesn't make you prejudiced.

  4. boris says:

    No, i'd still say you're prejudiced, ie, you pre judge. TBH, you run a good site here, but you talk too much, and a lot of what you say is ill informed garbage.

  5. Pete Stevens says:

    @Boris…In defending Tim here, I'd have to say from reading this blog alsmost from the beginning there hasn't been too much "ill-informed garbage", if any. Now I'm in a very different position to Tim in that I live in London and have met and photographed Boris on a number of occasions over the last six or seven years. I've seen him work at close quarters, sat through speeches and questioning in the chamber at City Hall and even at events up at the top of City Hall. He is highly intelligent, well-educated, funny and disarming. I don't believe in this 'bumbling bumpkin' persona at all. He is well-briefed and is the consummate politician. I'm not in a position to judge, but at least I have the ability to make a fairly well-informed decision. I don't like him either. His decision to use 'London Calling' and his liking of The Clash smacks of an aide suggesting it would make him look 'down with the kids' and cool. He obviously didn't bother reading the lyrics properly and exercising his grey matter to decipher one or two of the messages contained therein. Cultural opportunism. Joe would've rallied against both Boris and his political ilk. Boris is dangerous precisely because of his personality. It wouldn't surprise me if he was Prime Minister here in ten years time. The people will sleepwalk into virtually anything these days….Wake up !!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Pete, if I remember rightly I think Lucinda has some sort of family connection to him via a brother in law or something so he got to meet Joe a couple of times. I heard the Desert Island discs and I remember him mentioning this was why he chose it. Pete I totally agree, I dont buy this bumbling buffoon persona for a minute, hes clearly very bright and knows exactly what he's doing. Unfortunately many people do which is why he keeps winning. If Cameron loses the next election hes got to be a very strong candidate for next Tory leader.

  7. Steve North says:

    Pete, if I remember rightly I think Lucinda has some sort of family connection to him via a brother in law or something so he got to meet Joe a couple of times. I heard the Desert Island discs and I remember him mentioning this was why he chose it. Pete I totally agree, I dont buy this bumbling buffoon persona for a minute, hes clearly very bright and knows exactly what he's doing. Unfortunately many people do which is why he keeps winning. If Cameron loses the next election hes got to be a very strong candidate for next Tory leader.

  8. Tim says:

    Boris,

    Thanks for your well-informed (and unsupported) opinions.

    I don't believe I prejudge, in fact up until your most recent reply I was still on the fence as to whether you were just a troll or a complete cock womble. Seeing as you don't know the definition of the word prejudice and tell me I run 'a good site…but a lot of what I say is ill-informed garbage' I suggest you find another site that feeds trolls. I take Billy Bragg's advice and only feed them once. Run along now like a good troll.

  9. Pete Stevens says:

    @Steve…Next time I'm in touch with Lucinda I'll ask her. Haven't heard about that connection before…..

  10. [...] press on with getting some work done. Sorry for the delays, I’ll be back soon with more ‘ill-informed garbage’ as the blog was recently described by a very kind troll reader. You know who you are….I love [...]

  11. boris says:

    It is a good site, I mean that, it's just not welcoming for Tories who love the Clash like me. It feels like prejudice. Simple meaning, that's how we're made to feel.

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