Best Punk Band of all time? subjective but I think so
Hello again….how are we? Also why do doctors refer to us as we? I’m well thanks now that you’re asking but I won’t be if it doesn’t eventually rain in this city. Sorry for the lengthy delay between posts I’ve just had one of those weeks at work where I’ve felt empty by the time the evenings roll round and writing is the last thing I can manage. I’ll make up for it over the next 72 hours and next weekend I’m taking a trip out of state so hopefully will gain some blogging momentum there.
Tonight’s post was inspired by this question that popped up on a forum ‘were The Clash the greatest punk band?‘ which of course is a subjective question. You’d need to define who the contenders are, in fact exactly what was punk? Couldn’t it be applied to The Stooges or The MC5 if we go back in time, or Green Day and The Strokes if you wanted? Are you a punk band if you begin as one but don’t especially remain one? Is punk more to do with a sound or an attitude? Does it have to be both? Was Woody Guthrie punk? I’m of the very entrenched opinion that thirtyish years after first identifying with punk music and happily being called a punk if someone chose to do so it has more to do with how you think than having The Exploited or The Misfits written across the back of your black leather jacket. I think if you’re still prepared to call out someone for being a poser or a parasite, a divider or a racist then you’re probably still a punk. If you think that people should do their own thing and not wait for the corporations to give us guidance you’re probably a punk. If you think that too much control is had by the people in power with the money you’re probably a punk. I’ve nothing to guarantee my theories except that it’s what I believe. So were The Clash the best punk band? For me they were, as I think their debut album is still the best collection of punk songs and even then they don’t follow form entirely by throwing in Police and Thieves as a cover version. Perhaps more excitingly less than two years after recording their debut they had evolved into essentially a different band. Funny though it is that ‘post-punk’ has come to embody most of the better bands that surfaced from late ’78 until ’82 you could argue that The Clash were the first post punk band. In a sense at least.
Anyway I chucked that survey question up on Facebook earlier this week as I was appalled to see that only 25% at that point felt The Clash were the best punk band ever. Best punk band? You can make a good case for them being the best band in general, and certainly of their era they were unsurpassed. By the gentle power of persuasion that same poll now shows 67% voted The Clash as the best punk band. Now I feel guilty as if I’ve performed some electioneering (which I have) to create a better result. More seriously what band from the 76/77 punk era were better? I’d say Buzzcocks, The Ramones, The Damned and The Sex Pistols would constitute many people’s top five. I thought I’d look at a few random (magazine) polls to see where people rated The Clash as best band in other environments. So…Top 100 bands of all time:
Number 28 – Rolling Stone: The paper often cited for doing more to break the band in the US places The Clash in vaunted company at 28. The profile was written by The Edge who said “mplete throw-down to us. It was like: Why are you in music? What the hell is music all about, anyway? The members of the Clash were not world-class musicians by any means, but the racket they made was undeniable — the pure, visceral energy and the anger and the commitment. They were raw in every sense, and they were not ashamed that they were about much more than playing with precision and making sure the guitars were in tune. This wasn’t just entertainment. It was a life-and-death thing. They made it possible for us to take our band seriously” Here’s the link to the top 100, scroll through to 28 for The Clash profile.
Number 22 – VH1 : I know, who regards VH1 as a source of information these days…or ever? That doesn’t deny the fact that they ranked The Clash this high far ahead of The Kinks, Radiohead and The Velvet Underground to name just a few. Incidentally the highest ranked punk band. Here’s the full VH1 list.
Number 53 – AVRev: You’re probably wondering what sort of a source AVRev is (which stands for AudioVideo revolution) and the answer is I don’t really know. What I do like being a bit of a numbers person is that they used some formulas to generate their final list which gave scores out of 100 for US Sales, Innovation, Songs and Songwriting etc. Of course that remains a bit arbitrary but The Clash do score very well for ‘innovation’ (89) which places them in the top 10 all time, I’d argue that innovation is the most important attribute of a band. I’ve just lost respect for the poll however as I noticed they have The Police at number 11 (?)
Undetermined – Mojo: I couldn’t find a list from Mojo of top artists but they did do the top 100 albums of all time which saw London Calling in 22nd and the debut album at 49. On aggregate I’d say that earns them a place in the top 50.
Number 2 (best punk bands) – Rate Your Music: Rate your music is an odd site but still worth a visit if you’ve got time. They did create a best punk band list based on users votes for each album which you can visit here. The Clash came in at number 2 with the top spot being occupied by none of those suggested top 5 I mentioned earlier. Go and have a look.
We’ll look at more lists another time. I just read the sad/predictable news that Amy Winehouse has been found dead at the dreaded age 27. RIP. It’s been a bad two days with the tragic events in Norway and the news that a former work colleague younger than myself passed away at age 42 yesterday. I need some good news! Got any?
Talk to you soon, Tim


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